AMD’s last FX gasp: 5GHz FX-9590 down to $230, new lower-power 8-core chips debut
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Today is a double-whammy for AMD: the company is launching both the new R9 285 GPU, and a bevy of new processors in its eight-core FX family. There are multiple facets to this launch, including significant price cuts at the high end, new eight-core chips that fit within a 95W TDP bracket, and tweaked SKUs that improve Piledriver’s performance modestly at roughly the same price point.
Let’s take ’em in order, shall we?
The FX-9590 comes down to Earth
AMD made headlines last summer when it announced plans to launch a 5GHz CPU — and lost a significant portion of that interest when it revealed that the chip, the FX-9590, would be priced at $800 or more. Over the past 12 months the upper bound on the FX-9590 has crept steadily downward until today, when AMD is slotting it into place in a standard price segment.
Starting today, you’ll be able to buy an FX-9590 for $230. With a base clock of 4.7GHz and a Turbo Mode of 5GHz, that puts the core’s clock roughly 20% ahead of the standard FX-8350. Since the chip will command a 1.27x price premium over AMD’s more mainstream octa-core, the price/performance comparison actually looks fairly reasonable.
AMD quad-module (eight-core) Piledriver (Vishera) die, as found inside the FX-9590. Each of the blue blocks is two cores (kinda).
One thing to keep in mind if you’re considering the FX-9590, however, is that the 220W TDP is no joke. Unless you’ve got water cooling or better, don’t expect to see any overclocking headroom either — the chip is already running right at the frequency limit. (Also, make sure your motherboard is formally rated to handle the chip.)
New CPU cores to flesh out the 95W segment
The next major announcement from Chimpzilla today is the debut of multiple new Piledriver-based CPUs. The FX-8370, FX-8370E, and FX-8320E are new 125W and 95W processors that fill a longstanding hole in AMD’s product mix.
Up until now, virtually all the FX-8xxx processors and most of the hexa-core models were all 125W TDP parts. If you own a high end board, that’s not a problem — an Asus Crosshair V or high-end model from Gigabyte or MSI can handle 125W of TDP or more without breaking a sweat.
Midrange models, however, often have a 95W limit, which means AMD was effectively locked out of offering these users an upgrade path. Now, AMD is obviating that restriction with 95W eight-core parts with low base clocks but relatively high Turbo modes. Testing suggests that under sustained load, the 95W FX-8370E will drop to 10-15% behind the 125W FX-8370 — but if you’re currently stuck on 4-6 cores and needing more threads, the benefits may be worth it.
A few days ago, in the discussion thread for our Haswell-E coverage, I opined that the FX-8350’s relatively high price still made it a tough sell compared to some of Intel’s products in the same price segment. Now, AMD is launching the FX-8320 — a 95W CPU that trades 7.
5% worth of CPU clock for a 27% price cut. As bargains go, that’s a good one.
New launches marred by benchmark shenanigans
Unfortunately, AMD apparently didn’t think new, power-conserving CPUs and dramatic price cuts were good enough news on their own — the company had to go and deliberately tilt its performance deck.
First, a word about manufacturer-provided benchmarks. The benchmark values that a company drops into its marketing presentations are obviously going to paint the hardware in a positive light — but most companies have learned that shoving overtly one-sided test results at a member of the press doesn’t go over well in the short or long term. Thus, companies will typically go to great pains to assure reviewers that the hardware and operating system of a rig are well-configured and neutrally positioned.
This time around, AMD has opted for something different. When it compares gaming performance between Intel and AMD platforms, multiple slides show an AMD CPU and R9 285 GPU squaring off against an Intel chip and an Nvidia GTX 760.
The problem with this is simple — the R9 285 is designed to beat the GTX 760 — and at the resolutions AMD is testing, games are almost entirely GPU bound in any case. A year ago, when we compared gaming on the FX-9590 versus the Core i7-4960X, the AMD system held its own fairly well.
Is this a huge, earthshaking problem? No. But it’s frustrating enough to call attention to. Deliberately comparing two different GPUs is apples and oranges, particularly when you’re arming your hardware with the better ammo.
Improving around the edges
Ultimately, these new cores and price shifts are both an attempt to improve the attractiveness of AMD’s product portfolio by putting octa-core chips in the hands of more users and a stopgap measure designed to hold the line until new cores are available at some future date.
When that date will be is anyone’s guess. AMD has no public plans to release an eight-core Kaveri and what roadmaps exist show the FX family continuing in its present form through the end of 2014.
There’s always a chance that could change, but it seems more likely that AMD will wait for 2016 and the fruits of its CPU design efforts before making any major shakeups.
Need advice to get FX-9590 to a stable 5GHz 24/7 year round
Ok so I just changed out mother boards from Asus Crosshair V Formula Z (that is 5 years old) to the new Asus TUF Sabertooth 990FX R3.0
and upgraded/updated my PSU from a Cooler Master 1100 watt Ultimate 80 plus silver (that is 9 years old) to a new EVGA Super Nova 1300 G2 1300 watt
I believe I have the PSU and Motherboard to hit the 5GHz mark I just need advise on the bios settings and may for some one with a lot more experience to tell me if my cooling is sufficient enough to keep the temps in safe range to keep the computer running at the 5GHz setting 24/7 all year round with out killing my PC
I have a Corsair h210 140mm x 280mm radiator water cooler mounted to the front of my Corsair 750D I have 2 140mm fans blowing in to the radiator bringing cool air into the radiator and then I have 2 more 140mm fans on the inside of the Radiator pulling the hot air away faster than the intake fans.
There are 3 140mm fans blowing the heat out the top and 1 140mm blowing heat out the back.
Unfortunately all the 140mm fans are a mix of different Corsair fans and not sure what there specs are I believe the top and rear fans though have a 64 CFM rating
My Computer as of this moment
AMD FX 9590 (currently clocked at 4.7GHz)
Corsair Hydro Series h210 with 4x140mm fans
ASUS TUF Sabertooth 990FX R3.0 with 40mm fan blowing on VRM’s
Corsair Vengeance Pro Series DDR3 32GB 2400MHz (currently clocked at 2133 MHz)
Corsair Vengeance Airflow RAM cooler
AMD Radeon R7 240GB SSD (Primary Drive)
Seagate HDD/SDD hybrid 1TB x2 for storage
Sapphire Tri-X OC AMD Radeon R9 290 4GB x2 in Crossfire
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Z sound card
EVGA Super Nova 1300 G2 80 plus gold
Corsair Obsidian 750D case with high airflow front panel /3x140mm top/ 140mm rear/ h210 mounted to front
LITEON Blu-ray DVD CD
Zalman 6 fan controller
Logitech G510s keyboard
Logitech G500 mouse
Please would like to finally reach a stable 5GHz and be able to play games and not worry about over heating crashing or over voltage
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In summer 2013, AMD plans to ship the first desktop processor capable of operating at 5GHz.
AMD has unveiled the world’s first 5GHz-capable personal computer processor, the AMD FX-9590, at the E3 gaming industry show in Los Angeles.
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AMD FX-9590, codenamed Vishera, is based on the Piledriver microprocessor architecture, which is the successor to the Bulldozer. The processor has 8 cores and is manufactured based on the 32nm process standard.
The company did not disclose the technical characteristics of the processor, including its power consumption, however, as DailyTech explains, we are talking about the frequency in the Turbo Core technology activation mode, that is, in the overclocking mode. The approximate value of the base frequency is 4.5 GHz.
All processors in the AMD FX family support Turbo Core technology, but none of them can operate at frequencies above 4.2 GHz. The power consumption (TDP) of the most powerful AMD FX processors in existence is 125W.
The new chip, like other processors of the family, is designed for gamers and enthusiasts. AMD plans to start its deliveries in the summer of 2013. The cost is not reported.
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In addition to AMD FX-9590, the company introduced the FX-9 model370 with 4.
7 GHz support. It is also based on the Piledriver architecture, has 8 cores and is manufactured on the basis of the 32nm norm.
Both processors support overclocking, that is, the clock frequency at which they are able to work can be increased. The company did not provide specific figures.
AMD’s success story includes first breaking the 1 GHz milestone in 2000, as well as the release of the first true 2- and 4-core processors (all cores on a single die) and the release of the first APU (central and graphics cores on a single die). ).
Recall that now AMD does not own production facilities, but only engaged in design activities. In 2009, the company’s factories were spun off into Globalfoundries, a joint venture with Arab investment company ATIC. Globalfoundries, among other things, manufactures AMD processors.
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But first, a little nostalgia. Even if you are an ardent fan of Intel and NVIDIA, you have probably heard about AMD FX processors more than once. When they are mentioned, epithets like “drag” and “more alive than all living ones” necessarily slip through. What is so legendary about them?
The first «Ficuses» appeared back in 2011, and in their maximum configuration they had as many as 8 cores. At the time, this seemed like an unnecessary overkill. And in view of the «dual» structure, the performance of individual cores lost to competitive solutions. You can find more about the microarchitecture in our first material, so we will not focus on this.
But with the advent of the second generation of Fufiks and the gradual increase in the popularity of multi-threaded applications, the situation has improved significantly.
Especially if you carry out a complex overclocking of the processor and throw it a fast RAM. Fortunately, all AMD FX have an unlocked multiplier, which makes this process quite simple. As a result, you can count on a good bonus, even without a top-end motherboard and cooler. Thanks to this and more than pleasant prices, these «stones» have gained love and respect among the economical PC enthusiasts.
The protagonist of this test will be AMD FX-8350 . This is a 32nm member of the Vishera family on the Piledriver microarchitecture. Under the heat distribution cover, it has 4 modules with 8 cores with a base frequency of 4 GHz and dynamic overclocking to 4.2 GHz. The L3 cache is 8MB and the TDP is 125W.
Now let’s recall the stand configuration. The top motherboard was invited to the role of the motherboard at one time ASRock Fatal1ty 990FX Killer .
16 GB of RAM in 2-channel mode was enough for the tests.
Used kit series G.SKILL TridentX . In nominal terms, it worked at a frequency of 1333 MHz with timings of 9-9-9-24.
A comfortable temperature regime for the processor was provided by a 2-section coolant ID — COOLING DashFlow 20075 20075 In addition to high efficiency, it has a very impressive appearance. All thanks to the presence of multi-color illumination of the water block and turntables. The kit provides an appropriate controller for those users whose motherboard lacks backlight support.
The disk subsystem is represented by a pair of PATRIOT P200 1 TB solid state drives.
Thanks to the Telemart.ua online store for the flagship NVIDIA Turing generation gaming video card — MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X TRIO . It is definitely enough to test the potential of the processor.
Our components are quite «gluttonous», so you need a powerful and high-quality power supply. This is Seasonic FOCUS PX-650 650W 80 PLUS Platinum certified.
All this stuff was placed without problems in the RIOTORO CR1288TG case. It is a complete Full Tower with a large tempered glass viewing window and well thought out interior space.
For those who are building a PC from used parts or simply upgrading their old system, inexpensive gaming peripherals can be a good addition. Brand 9 has one0074 Defender .
For example, the full-sized keyboard Defender Doom Keeper GK-100DL USB has the usual trapezoid keycaps. The buttons are pressed comfortably, but as for the «membrane» they turned out to be loud. In the presence of not the most uniform, but sufficient illumination for the dark time of the day.
There are three colors to choose from: red, blue and purple.
Symmetrical mouse Defender Forced GM-020L USB Black has at its disposal a simple optical sensor with a maximum resolution of 3200 DPI. For the average user, it will be enough, both for an office use case and for games of any genre. It works without complaints. Paired with a «rodent», a large carpet Defender Black XXL goes well.
Headset Defender Warhead G -120 Black — Orange does not sound beautiful, but it is quite suitable for regular video communication and unpretentious gaming. The same goes for the built-in microphone, which is nothing special. It is, it works and thanks for that.
Monitor Philips Brilliance 329P9H helped with displaying the image.
Gameplays recorded by external system with AVerMedia Live Gamer 4K , i.e. without loss of performance.
The system has been assembled — we will overclock! We still have “pebble” from the first revisions, so the results are not the highest. But if we recall last year’s test, where we managed to conquer only 4.2 GHz on the same FX-8350 with an air cooler, then the resulting 4.6 GHz look much better. In this case, thanks should be said to the high-performance dropsy.
For stable operation of the chip, I had to apply 1.4875 V to it and throw another 50 mV with Offset. With RAM, everything is simple — we activated the DDR3-2400 XMP profile with timings 10-12-12-31 and moved on to other parameters. CPU NB was accelerated to 2600 MHz at a voltage of 1.425 V. At a lower voltage, the system visually worked stably, but in some tests there was a drop in frequencies for a fraction of a second. A poet only this way and nothing else. The Hyper-Transport bus ran at 2600 MHz.
Along the way, minor voltages were tweaked a little.
With these settings, the system passed the AIDA64 stress test without any problems. At the same time, the maximum temperature of the processor cores rose only to 68°C.
Now let’s see how overclocking affects the level of randomness. For this, we have several standard synthetic tests in store. According to AIDA64 , the speed of writing, copying and reading from RAM increased by 24-53%. Access latency decreased by 28%.
The increase in CineBench R15 was about 15-18%. This allows you to confidently overtake the Ryzen 5 1400 and Core i3-9100F.
CPU-Z reports a 15% bonus for single and multi-threaded mode.
Now to the gaming benchmarks. In World of Tanks EnCore RT , after overclocking, the performance increased by a maximum of 32%. The stock is enough for higher settings.
